Early last decade, I used CD-RWs. They were very flaky. Data integrity was so unreliable.
Thankfully, all my DVDs and CDs have been great. I don’t store valuable data on optical discs as I learned long ago, they do fail. This is the first, though, that I’ve seen that looks great and has bad data integrity.
The only reason why I stopped using CD-Rs is because they’re, in my opinion, more obsolete the records.
But out of all the 80s CDs and all CD-Rs I have, I’ve only seen 2 bad ones (both were CD-Rs). The first one, the sticker damaged the data surface and kept skipping and came to the point where it failed completely. The second one was just scratched to hell and tracks 1-8 played fine but you would need a powerful player to play the rest of the CD. All the rest of my CDs work just fine.
i suspect those cd’s were burned at maximum speed of the cd-r… i recommend using 24x so at least some old version of optical pick-up/cd players can handle it without the clipping of audio
Seriously, you are getting on my nerves! You have never even seen our living room, you are really not the one to jump to any conclusions here! I wish you a lot of fun with all your super reliable high tech CDRs that all last forever because you are the CD Superman. Blocked
There we go, living room usually have lots of daylight and sun shine in the window.
The sun bleached the side of the CDs and this is what caused the problem, like i said it appears to be only one side of the CD that has the problem listening to the audio.
I wish people would sit down and think about what actually cause the problem instead of branding somthing bad just because the fail to read printed on the disks how to properly store things.
HDD on a speaker is same as putting CD in daylight.
If you listen carfully you will hear that the problem only seems to be on one side of the disk, maybe the CDs were left in sunlight and bleeched them or maybe left next to a radiator thhat cause one side to derade quicker than the other.
And if you talk about them being easily damaged, its just as easy to leave a 1TB USB HDD next to a speaker and the magnetic field to erase it,
between about 2000 and 2003 I burned vinyl to CD-R Audio to take abroad. I had to take the Philips audio cd recorder back under warranty 4 times with read/write problems. Now about a third to a half of those discs are useless. The brands I used wee Traxdata and Hi space. The worst ones seem to be the transparent type, there is no protection either, the label side is the back of the dye layer. lucky I kept my vinyl.
The later ones I burned on computer to verbatim cd-rs have so far been ok.
The big problem with the technology is the dye. Since CDR hit the market a lot has changed in the chemical compositions. For instance the first writable media you could get where I live were Kodak Gold disks. A few weeks before the release of windows 95 there was already a pirated copy of it available. I have a copy made in those days on a Kodak Gold disk. This disk was also written on 1X since the first drives didn’t go faster, this disk still works. Most of the cheap ones I’ve thrown out
Wrong. After recording, the magnetic information on the tape will start to slowly but surely fade away over the decades wich becomes noticeable in a loss of high frequencies. That does not happen on records.
-I never had any CD that you could look trough!!!
-The strange sounds when playing CD’s I only heard when i played CD-R’s in old CD players, that’s very normal. -We have over 800 DVD’s with labels on them, NEVER had any problems!!!
It’s true records are way more reliable but only if you take good care of them!
If your record player’s tone arm is not adjusted very well, the needle will very slowly destroy the grooves of your records.
It is not a unique case that only happened to me. Just do some research to understand what this is all about. There were even TV programmes about these problems and how optical media is unsafe.
And you fail to see the point of this video. Firstly, there is no danger if you back up whatever is on your PC. Like I do. And a more expensive CD player won’t fix the CDRs. I am not using Wal*Mart grade equipment here. I do have good CD players.
Oh yeah, another common, really annoying problem I’ve had with CDs is that the coating sometimes peels off and flakes away. Absolutely sucks. Almost makes you think tape is more reliable than CD. Go figure.
The stick on labels are always bad. They often throw off the balance of the discs. That was the case with some DVDs people were making from my sister’s dance shows a few years ago.
CDrs are’t crap. You fail to see the tangable uses of this technology. If this technology didn’t exist and all you had was internal memory only and one day a sudden failure of your pc results in a total loss of everything. You would change your tune.. What you need to do is buy a more expensive cd player. Only then will you know what you are missing.
If you still have the CD drive , you could do testing on it to ensure it wasnt the cause of the bad writing, actually you would need to test the whole computer you had at that time incase the power supply rail was low and what cause the laser to not burn at the correct temperature.
This seems to be a unique case that only happend to you.
Saying CD-Rs is a crap technology is not correct when you cannot pinpoint the real cause of the problem.
well if “The cause is irrelevant” then nothing is safe if all forms of storage were all mistreated or trown into a giant blender.
I am not saying you and your dad are stupid or anything when it comes to burning CDs, but you need to take into account the CD BURNER used for writing to the cd, maybe there was dust on the lens at the time, who knows.
But if youve had a few disks gone wrong from this lot, most likely its was caused by missuse or a faulty cd writer.
Personally never seen a CD gone bad
Early last decade, I used CD-RWs. They were very flaky. Data integrity was so unreliable.
Thankfully, all my DVDs and CDs have been great. I don’t store valuable data on optical discs as I learned long ago, they do fail. This is the first, though, that I’ve seen that looks great and has bad data integrity.
i love old technology its so robust
as i compared, the colored cd-r especially the black (made by sigma/melody) are one that stays durable in my archive rather than the silver cd-r
i use cdrs imn my car only saves my original cds getting scratched i find cdrs scratch easy and jump tracks alot tho
The only reason why I stopped using CD-Rs is because they’re, in my opinion, more obsolete the records.
But out of all the 80s CDs and all CD-Rs I have, I’ve only seen 2 bad ones (both were CD-Rs). The first one, the sticker damaged the data surface and kept skipping and came to the point where it failed completely. The second one was just scratched to hell and tracks 1-8 played fine but you would need a powerful player to play the rest of the CD. All the rest of my CDs work just fine.
Wrong. As I stated in the comments below, all my CDRs are recorded on the lowest speed possible.
i suspect those cd’s were burned at maximum speed of the cd-r… i recommend using 24x so at least some old version of optical pick-up/cd players can handle it without the clipping of audio
Seriously, you are getting on my nerves! You have never even seen our living room, you are really not the one to jump to any conclusions here! I wish you a lot of fun with all your super reliable high tech CDRs that all last forever because you are the CD Superman. Blocked
There we go, living room usually have lots of daylight and sun shine in the window.
The sun bleached the side of the CDs and this is what caused the problem, like i said it appears to be only one side of the CD that has the problem listening to the audio.
I wish people would sit down and think about what actually cause the problem instead of branding somthing bad just because the fail to read printed on the disks how to properly store things.
HDD on a speaker is same as putting CD in daylight.
If you listen carfully you will hear that the problem only seems to be on one side of the disk, maybe the CDs were left in sunlight and bleeched them or maybe left next to a radiator thhat cause one side to derade quicker than the other.
And if you talk about them being easily damaged, its just as easy to leave a 1TB USB HDD next to a speaker and the magnetic field to erase it,
can the damaging of the sound depending by the burning software? ( i mean errors and writing problems)
between about 2000 and 2003 I burned vinyl to CD-R Audio to take abroad. I had to take the Philips audio cd recorder back under warranty 4 times with read/write problems. Now about a third to a half of those discs are useless. The brands I used wee Traxdata and Hi space. The worst ones seem to be the transparent type, there is no protection either, the label side is the back of the dye layer. lucky I kept my vinyl.
The later ones I burned on computer to verbatim cd-rs have so far been ok.
CD’s are claimed to last FOREVER, but they are VERY easy to damage
The big problem with the technology is the dye. Since CDR hit the market a lot has changed in the chemical compositions. For instance the first writable media you could get where I live were Kodak Gold disks. A few weeks before the release of windows 95 there was already a pirated copy of it available. I have a copy made in those days on a Kodak Gold disk. This disk was also written on 1X since the first drives didn’t go faster, this disk still works. Most of the cheap ones I’ve thrown out
Big difference between printed CDs and burnt CD-Rs. CD-Rs are not supposed to last and they don’t. Indeed crap.
That’s correct. But that wasn’t the point
ok,I agree, but if you scratch record, needle will skip the grooves. I wanted to say that tape is more resistant on mechanical damages.
Wrong. After recording, the magnetic information on the tape will start to slowly but surely fade away over the decades wich becomes noticeable in a loss of high frequencies. That does not happen on records.
cassettes and reel to reel tapes are the most reliable, more than records!
Well you have had some good luck then.
As I said in the video – recorded last forever IF treated well.
-I never had any CD that you could look trough!!!
-The strange sounds when playing CD’s I only heard when i played CD-R’s in old CD players, that’s very normal. -We have over 800 DVD’s with labels on them, NEVER had any problems!!!
It’s true records are way more reliable but only if you take good care of them!
If your record player’s tone arm is not adjusted very well, the needle will very slowly destroy the grooves of your records.
It is not a unique case that only happened to me. Just do some research to understand what this is all about. There were even TV programmes about these problems and how optical media is unsafe.
And you fail to see the point of this video. Firstly, there is no danger if you back up whatever is on your PC. Like I do. And a more expensive CD player won’t fix the CDRs. I am not using Wal*Mart grade equipment here. I do have good CD players.
Nice ending. I have to agree, CDs are nothing but shit.
Oh yeah, another common, really annoying problem I’ve had with CDs is that the coating sometimes peels off and flakes away. Absolutely sucks. Almost makes you think tape is more reliable than CD. Go figure.
The stick on labels are always bad. They often throw off the balance of the discs. That was the case with some DVDs people were making from my sister’s dance shows a few years ago.
CDrs are’t crap. You fail to see the tangable uses of this technology. If this technology didn’t exist and all you had was internal memory only and one day a sudden failure of your pc results in a total loss of everything. You would change your tune.. What you need to do is buy a more expensive cd player. Only then will you know what you are missing.
If you still have the CD drive , you could do testing on it to ensure it wasnt the cause of the bad writing, actually you would need to test the whole computer you had at that time incase the power supply rail was low and what cause the laser to not burn at the correct temperature.
This seems to be a unique case that only happend to you.
Saying CD-Rs is a crap technology is not correct when you cannot pinpoint the real cause of the problem.
CD-R’s suck!
well if “The cause is irrelevant” then nothing is safe if all forms of storage were all mistreated or trown into a giant blender.
I am not saying you and your dad are stupid or anything when it comes to burning CDs, but you need to take into account the CD BURNER used for writing to the cd, maybe there was dust on the lens at the time, who knows.
But if youve had a few disks gone wrong from this lot, most likely its was caused by missuse or a faulty cd writer.
Personally never seen a CD gone bad